Due to a technology glitch, the verbiage from a year's worth of work to understand the no hunting zones was lost on October 5.
Here's the short version. The County of Los Angeles Firearms Regulations are still in effect, and have been since 1929 with no changes to the boundaries within the Chilao Recreation Complex. You can download a pdf copy of the most recent map we have in our possession from the link above. The map is a reference, the verbiage which describes the no hunting zones is what has legal weight. Taken together, they are much easier to comprehend. Here is the verbiage which describes the red area of the map:
The full body of information including all areas of Los Angeles County can be found here:
library.municode.com/ca/los_angeles_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TIT13PUPEMOWE_DIV8WE_CH13.66FIBOAR_PT3LESTSHDI_13.66.560DINO7GENAFO
If you are using OnX, their information is very comprehensive; however, they list a different source and different code sections to seek additional information. (Thank you Greg Horowitz for providing the following from OnX):
Distance Restrictions:
Do not hunt within 150 yards of any residence, building, campsite, developed recreation area, or other occupied area.Roads and Waterways:
Hunting is prohibited from or across National Forest System roads and adjacent bodies of water where injury to people or property could result from weapon discharge
Hunting
There are several things to keep in mind when considering hunting in the Angeles National Forest:
1. Hunting is permitted during hunting seasons designated by the California State Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW).
Zone D-11 - General Deer Hunting Information
2. A valid California hunting license is required. Licenses are available Online, at any CDFW License Sales Office or License Agent.
3. Hunting is allowed in the Angeles National Forest, but not everywhere within the forest. However, some areas of the forest are closed to some or all all users or specific forms of transportation. Be sure to check the Angeles National Forest's Alerts & Conditions webpage and Recreation webpage for updated information.
4. Hunting is not permitted in areas where the discharge of firearms is prohibited by County Ordinance, California State law, or Federal regulations.
5. Hunters must follow all laws, including no hunting within 150 yards of a residence, building, campsite, developed recreation site or occupied area.
6. No hunting is allowed across or on a National Forest System road or a body of water adjacent thereto, or in any manner or place where any person or property is exposed to injury or damage as a result of weapon discharge.
7. No hunting is allowed into or within any cave.
8. In addition, the following are prohibited to the extent Federal or State law is violated:
(a) Hunting, trapping, fishing, catching, molesting, killing or having in possession any kind of wild animal, bird, or fish, or taking the eggs of any such bird.
(b) Possessing a firearm or other implement designed to discharge a missile capable of destroying animal life.
(c) Possessing equipment which could be used for hunting, fishing, or trapping.
9. Specific laws associated with hunting can be found on the National Archives website. Look for 36 CFR 261.10(d) and 36 CFR 261.8.
Below are screenshots from the pdf map, as well as other images that were pertinent to the verbiage that was lost on October 5. The legend describes the colors and boundaries depicted in the map.
It is our goal to persuade the Los Angeles County Fish and Wildlife Commission to make this map available to the public via their website. Their website provides some programmatic information, but as hunting is concerned, it is a pass-through site to California Fish and Wildlife, who no longer distributes the County's information. While the map is considered a reference and not a legal document, it's a great reference, and it should be available through the County to everyone. In the meantime, please feel free to download the copy we have from the button link at the top of the page.
We'd love some help asking that the Los Angeles County Fish and Wildlife Commission put this map on their website. The commission itself is primarily focused on administering wildlife-related grants and is not the decision-making body for website content, so requests to have this information publicly displayed would be under the direction of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, and our Supervisor for zone D-11 and the Angeles National Forest is
KATHRYN BARGER
Supervisor, Fifth District
Population: 1,896,455
Square Miles: 2,785.21
500 West Temple Street, Room 869, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Main #: 213-974-5555
Fax #: 213-974-1010
Email: [email protected]
kathrynbarger.lacounty.gov
The Los Angeles County Fish and Wildlife Commission website is fishandwildlife.lacounty.gov
(Page header image: September 8, 2024, Line Fire (San Bernardino National Forest) on left, Bridge fire (Angeles National Forest) on right, as seen from Chilao School)
Here's the short version. The County of Los Angeles Firearms Regulations are still in effect, and have been since 1929 with no changes to the boundaries within the Chilao Recreation Complex. You can download a pdf copy of the most recent map we have in our possession from the link above. The map is a reference, the verbiage which describes the no hunting zones is what has legal weight. Taken together, they are much easier to comprehend. Here is the verbiage which describes the red area of the map:
- 13.66.150 - District No. 2—Charlton-Chilao area.District No. 2, Charlton-Chilao area, includes all that part of the unincorporated territory of the county of Los Angeles within the following described boundaries:
Beginning at the intersection of Charlton Flats Road and the west line of Section 34, Township 3 North, Range 11 West, S.B.M., said intersection being near Vetter Mountain Lookout Tower; thence north along section lines to a point in the west line of Section 15, said township and range, said point being one mile north of the Chilao Sewage Disposal facility, said point also being a point in Mt. Hillyer Road (3N14); thence northeasterly along Mt. Hillyer Road to the junction with Horse Flats Road (3N17); thence northerly along Horse Flats Road to Alder Saddle; thence northeasterly and southeasterly along a road running adjacent to the south fork of Little Rock Creek to the intersection with the most northerly boundary of Sulphur Springs Campground; thence due east from said last-mentioned intersection 1/3 of a mile to the firebreak that runs southerly to Camp Cumorah Crest; thence southerly along said firebreak to its intersection with the most northerly boundary of Camp Cumorah Crest; thence due east to the east line of Section 13, said township and range; thence southerly along said last-mentioned east line to Angeles Crest Highway; thence in a generally southwesterly direction along Angeles Crest Highway to its intersection with the north-south quarter section line of Section 26 said township and range, said last-mentioned intersection being approximately 1/8 of a mile north of the center of said last-mentioned section; thence southerly along quarter section lines to the first intersection of Mt. Mooney Road (from the south); thence southeasterly along Mt. Mooney Road to the end thereof (in the southeast quarter of Section 35 of said township and range); thence due east from the end of Mt. Mooney Road to the east line of said last-mentioned section; thence southerly along section lines to Angeles Crest Highway; thence northwesterly along Angeles Crest Highway to Charlton Flats Road; thence generally southerly and westerly along Charlton Flats Road to the point of beginning.
(Ord. 83-0171 § 3 (part), 1983: Ord. 7381 § 1 (part), 1958: Ord. 1769 Art. 1 § 102, 1929.)
The full body of information including all areas of Los Angeles County can be found here:
library.municode.com/ca/los_angeles_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=TIT13PUPEMOWE_DIV8WE_CH13.66FIBOAR_PT3LESTSHDI_13.66.560DINO7GENAFO
If you are using OnX, their information is very comprehensive; however, they list a different source and different code sections to seek additional information. (Thank you Greg Horowitz for providing the following from OnX):
Distance Restrictions:
Do not hunt within 150 yards of any residence, building, campsite, developed recreation area, or other occupied area.Roads and Waterways:
Hunting is prohibited from or across National Forest System roads and adjacent bodies of water where injury to people or property could result from weapon discharge
Hunting
There are several things to keep in mind when considering hunting in the Angeles National Forest:
1. Hunting is permitted during hunting seasons designated by the California State Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW).
Zone D-11 - General Deer Hunting Information
2. A valid California hunting license is required. Licenses are available Online, at any CDFW License Sales Office or License Agent.
3. Hunting is allowed in the Angeles National Forest, but not everywhere within the forest. However, some areas of the forest are closed to some or all all users or specific forms of transportation. Be sure to check the Angeles National Forest's Alerts & Conditions webpage and Recreation webpage for updated information.
4. Hunting is not permitted in areas where the discharge of firearms is prohibited by County Ordinance, California State law, or Federal regulations.
5. Hunters must follow all laws, including no hunting within 150 yards of a residence, building, campsite, developed recreation site or occupied area.
6. No hunting is allowed across or on a National Forest System road or a body of water adjacent thereto, or in any manner or place where any person or property is exposed to injury or damage as a result of weapon discharge.
7. No hunting is allowed into or within any cave.
8. In addition, the following are prohibited to the extent Federal or State law is violated:
(a) Hunting, trapping, fishing, catching, molesting, killing or having in possession any kind of wild animal, bird, or fish, or taking the eggs of any such bird.
(b) Possessing a firearm or other implement designed to discharge a missile capable of destroying animal life.
(c) Possessing equipment which could be used for hunting, fishing, or trapping.
9. Specific laws associated with hunting can be found on the National Archives website. Look for 36 CFR 261.10(d) and 36 CFR 261.8.
Below are screenshots from the pdf map, as well as other images that were pertinent to the verbiage that was lost on October 5. The legend describes the colors and boundaries depicted in the map.
It is our goal to persuade the Los Angeles County Fish and Wildlife Commission to make this map available to the public via their website. Their website provides some programmatic information, but as hunting is concerned, it is a pass-through site to California Fish and Wildlife, who no longer distributes the County's information. While the map is considered a reference and not a legal document, it's a great reference, and it should be available through the County to everyone. In the meantime, please feel free to download the copy we have from the button link at the top of the page.
We'd love some help asking that the Los Angeles County Fish and Wildlife Commission put this map on their website. The commission itself is primarily focused on administering wildlife-related grants and is not the decision-making body for website content, so requests to have this information publicly displayed would be under the direction of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, and our Supervisor for zone D-11 and the Angeles National Forest is
KATHRYN BARGER
Supervisor, Fifth District
Population: 1,896,455
Square Miles: 2,785.21
500 West Temple Street, Room 869, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Main #: 213-974-5555
Fax #: 213-974-1010
Email: [email protected]
kathrynbarger.lacounty.gov
The Los Angeles County Fish and Wildlife Commission website is fishandwildlife.lacounty.gov
(Page header image: September 8, 2024, Line Fire (San Bernardino National Forest) on left, Bridge fire (Angeles National Forest) on right, as seen from Chilao School)